This I Know

I went to church this morning, and learned, to my great surprise, that I've had the lyrics to "Jesus Loves Me" wrong for about 25 years now.

I always thought that the song went:
Jesus Loves Me, this I know
For the Bible tells me so.
Little Ones who Hymn below,
they are weak but he is strong.

What does "who hymn below" mean? You know, that the kids are down on earth, singing and praising Him in Heaven.

But today, the little Sunday School kids sang
Jesus Loves Me, this I know
And the Bible tells me so.
Little Ones to Him belong,
They are weak but he is strong.

I looked it up in the Hymnal (yes, it was in the Hymnal, I was surprised too) and it read, "Little ones to Him belong." So I was wrong. I was, however, right about "for the Bible," it isn't "and the Bible tells me so."

Now I wonder weather someone taught me wrong, or whether I misheard the words all those times.

I also learned something about forgiveness, blah blah blah, so I guess I'm going to have to call my friend from the previous post and at least clear the air. I think that if I'm going to decide that she's not worthy of my friendship, that's fine, but it's not going to be over this one comment. Not that I'm in any rush to do it.

I spoke to my mother today, and told her the story, and she said, "Oh, you have to just call her and talk it out." And I said, "Well, yeah, I guess I just don't really feel like it." My mother said, "Then don't, screw her. You don't need her."

I had to laugh. You think, based on that, my mother forced me to go to school when I didn't "feel like it?"


  1. For a long time I thought the hymn "Bringing in the Sheaves" was, in fact, "Bringing in the Cheese" - I used to love to sing "we shall go rejoicing, bringing in the cheese"! It made a ton more sense to me, as a child.

    In fact, I'm not entirely sure what a sheave is, so, it still makes more sense as 'cheese'.



  2. Post #64 Father Forgive Them
    Posted and E-mailed April 9, 2007 (from

    I always wondered about Christ statement on cross, “FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO.” I like the concept that we can be forgiven for our sins but I have a problem with forgiving the EVIL things that others do to me or worse yet my children?

    Luckily GOD gave me the answer last Sunday during a service at the First Alliance Church in Port Charlotte, Florida. When Christ made the statement/prayer (“FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO.”), he WASN’T asking for forgiveness for PILATE; the HIGH PRIEST; the SCRIBES; the PHARISEES; the TEACHERS OF THE LAW; the ELDERS and possibly HEROD. I say POSSIBLY Herod because Herod’s role in Christ’s death isn’t as clear in bible. His role is ONLY documented in Luke’s writings but NEVER mentioned in Matthew, Mark or John.

    So based on the accounts in the bible that are well documented, I BELIEVE PILATE; the HIGH PRIEST; the SCRIBES; the PHARISEES; the TEACHERS OF THE LAW; and the ELDERS KNEW what they were doing when they allowed Christ to be crucified. In fact, some of them had been planning to have Jesus killed for some time. The following references should help you understand GOD’S meaning behind the concept of THEM KNOWING WHAT THEY WERE DOING: Mark 11:18; Mark 3:6; Luke 19:47; Matthew 12:14; Matthew 26:3; John 5:18; Matthew 21:45; and Mark 12:12.

    So who was Christ praying for when he made that prayer? (“FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO.”) I BELIEVE he was talking about the soldiers that were FOLLOWING ORDERS and KNEW NOTHING about the EVIL PLANS that had been previously made to kill Jesus. Those soldiers probably DIDN’T even know who Christ was much less what he DID or in this case DIDN’T DO to deserve the punishment they were instructed to carry out. Remember they were ROMAN SOLDIERS and spoke LATIN NOT HEBREW. They weren’t JEWISH, so they DIDN’T know very much about Christ’s teachings. Remember Christ came for the JEWS not the GENTLIES. He didn’t try to convert NON-JEWS to the JEWISH FAITH.

    I BELIEVE Christ was also asking GOD to forgive the FOOLISH PEOPLE that joined the crowd and demanded Christ’s death because it seemed like the IN THING at the time. Some of them might have KNOWN Christ or heard of the miracles he performed and wanted him to perform and even bigger one for them to see. They FOOLISHLY thought GOD would save Christ from death but on the other hand they BELIEVED in GOD and the power Christ had. So their intentions WEREN'T ALL BAD. They just DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

    Once you realize Christ WASN’T asking for forgiveness for the people that INTENTIONALLY broke GOD’S LAWS and/or the ones that had NO REGUARD for Christ's rights. It becomes a lot easier for me to following in Christ’s footsteps.

    Yeah, I can forgive people that UNINTENTIONALLY cause me pain and suffering because they DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. Plus they just might try to earn forgiveness for the harm they caused when they find out about it. On the other hand people that INTENTIONALLY cause pain and break GOD’S COMMANDMENTS AREN’T the type that’ll care about earning forgiveness. So I’m NOT going to worry about NOT being able to forgive them right away. That type of forgiveness takes time. Even Christ DIDN’T worry about forgiving them. His first concern was for the people that had GOOD INTENTIONS and/or were being USED by others. They DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. Judas might even have been one of ones FOOLED into getting Christ crucified. I WON'T be his judge and I WON'T throw the first stone. I'll let GOD be the judge and jury on that one.

    I BELIEVE the following references document the presence of those types of people (people that DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING): Mark 15:34-36 and Matthew 27:46-49. In those passages, Christ was dying on the cross, and he uttered the words, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani? Which means, “My God, my God, why did you abandon me.?” Some thought he was asking for help from Elijah (Eli short for Elijah). So they said, “Wait, let us see if Elijah is coming to save him.” They were STILL expecting a miracle. They were still hoping to FORCE GOD; ELIJAH: MOSES; CHRIST; … to work a miracle and to save Jesus. They BELIEVED in GOD and HAD faith but they wanted to FORCE GOD to put on a BIGGER and BETTER SHOW for them. They had seen Christ cure the sick, make the blind see, the crippled walk and even bring people back to life. Now they wanted to raise the bar a little higher and FORCE GOD to perform an even more impressive miracle. Kind of like us making magicians do bigger and riskier tricks to impress us. The point is THEY DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

    One last thing to REMEMBER, forgiveness DOESN’T mean you have to FORGET the act. GOD wants us to LEARN from the EXPERIENCE. If you DON'T think I'm right, why are we still talking about Christ's crucifixion and death? Shouldn't we have ALREADY forgot about it? The point is if you FORGET about it, you’ll most likely suffer through it again and again. However, if you REMEMBER it, you’ll handle it better each time and eventually learn to AVOID it and the people that cause that pain and suffering. Just like Christ tried to AVOID the SCRIBES, PHARISEES, and TEACHERS OF THE LAW. He was showing us the PATH to heaven by his PERFECT EXAMPLE. If we FAIL to FOLLOW his example, we really AREN’T his followers.

    If you think Christ DOESN'T want us to remember INTENTIONAL SINNERS and their deeds, then tell me WHY he warned us about SINNERS in Luke 12:1 when he said, "... Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees - I mean their hypocrisy." In fact Jesus warnned us SEVERAL TIMES about the HYPOCRISY of the TEACHERS OF THE LAW and the PHARISEES. Does that sound like FORGETTING? Does that sound like FORGIVENESS?

    NOT to me. It sounds like he was teaching us to REMEMBER the SINS of those that INTENTIONALLY sin against us until they EARN FORGIVENESS. You get to LEARN to AVOID having to be PUNISHED for their sins again and again if you REMEMBER them. That's why GOD wants us to REMEMBER them. God hates to see us suffer for the sins of others.

    The PEOPLE who INTENTIONALLY break GOD’S LAWS must be required to EARN the FORGIVENESS we give them before we have to FORGET the past and move on. In other words, THEY HAVE TO EARN A SECOND CHANCE. Forcing them to EARN A SECOND CHANCE makes them less likely to commit that offense again. People that have to PAY for their MISTAKES DON’T usually like to keep paying for the SAME MISTAKES again and again.

    So if a PERSON who INTENTIONALLY breaks GOD’S LAWS refuses to PAY for his/her MISTAKE because they want to get away with murder, you DON’T have to GIVE THEM A SECOND CHANCE. They’re the type that WON’T think twice, if their given a chance to commit the SAME or ANY advantageous offense against you again. So be careful around them and learn from the experience.

    Christ was ALWAYS careful around the SCRIBES; PHARISEES; and TEACHERS OF THE LAW. So follow his example and DON’T FORGET the sins of those that WON’T earn the forgiveness you already gave them.

    On the other hand you HAVE TO FORGIVE THE ONES THAT DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING. And you HAVE TO GIVE THEM A SECOND CHANCE. Just like Christ did on the cross. So follow his example and FORGIVE THE ONES THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. They're the ones that you HAVE TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK FOR.

    On the other hand, you DON'T have to turn the other cheek for the ones that INTENTIONALLY break GOD LAWS. They have to EARN FORGIVENESS AND A SECOND CHANCE before you HAVE TO turn the other cheek FOR THEM.

  3. Yeah, I completely disagree with that biblical interpretation. I'm not going to write a long interpretation here, but I just wanted to say that while you need to forgive eventually, you don't need to forgive right away. You can give yourself the time to get to a point where you can really offer forgiveness and where you don't do it grudginly. I'll probably post on this later this week, but I've had situations where I just wasn't able to offer forgiveness simply because I knew that I was supposed to. I knew that I had to wait to get over the pain. Maybe that's what you need, too...

  4. yea....when I was a kid, I thought it was "bringing in the sheeps." :-)


  5. I've got to tell you, "little ones who hymn below," while perhaps incorrect lyrics, definitely refers to a chorus of imps down in Hell.

  6. Anonymous, there are some serious holes in your above interpretation. First of all, I don't see how you can possibly reconcile your idea that you don't have to forgive EVERYONE who wrongs you with Luke 6:37, "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." The verse doesn't say "Only forgive some people under certain circumstances." It simply gives a blanket commandment, "Forgive." It's pretty simple.
    Secondly, people do things they know are wrong all the time. That's precisely WHY we need forgiveness. Remember the Garden of Eden. Before Adam and Eve attained the "knowledge of good and evil", they were considered sinless. They didn't need to be forgiven of anything. When they did something that we would consider a sin, it was the same as an animal doing it, because they did not understand the concept of sin. It was only once they understood the difference between right and wrong that they were held responsible for their actions, and thus, were in need of forgiveness.
    Third, you quote several verses in which Jesus tells his disciples to watch out for the Pharisees and other hypocrites. These quotations are not necessarily given a particular context. We have no reason to believe that Jesus was speaking in response to a specific affront to him. In fact, the verses you quote don't even seem to fit that interpretation. Just because Jesus said to watch out for hypocrites and people who will lead you astray, doesn't mean you don't have to forgive them. The two ideas have nothing to do with each other. I've been wrong before, but I just don't see how your argument holds water.

  7. Well, I used to think it was
    "Little wants to him below."

    Ha! I bet we aren't the only ones who were confused!

  8. Excuse me while I kiss this guy.